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February 23, 2011

Wednesday’s Child: The Read Children

Filed under: DAILY BLOGGING THEMES, Wednesday's Child — Tags: , , — rootsresearcher @ 11:13 pm

I was having a sift through some of my reseach notes today and double checking various things and in doing so I was looking at the family of John Read (1745 – 1804) and his wife Anne (nee Grace) (d. 1799).  John is the nephew of my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read.

John and Anne Read had five children but only one survived to adulthood.  She went on to marry and have children of her own.

John and Anne’s first child was Robert born at  Great Haseley, Oxfordshire in February 1769.  He died four months later.

Their next child was Thomas, born at Great Haseley in July 1770.  They must have been very pleased to find Thomas growing up out of his babyhood and becoming a toddler and on into his childhood.  But, sadly poor Thomas died aged  eight years.  His parents must have been desolate to lose another child.

Their third child was a daughter, Rachel, born in 1772 at Great Haseley.  John and Anne must have been on tenterhooks throughout Rachel’s childhood, wondering if they were going to lose her too.  But, Rachel grew up and lived to a good age, 72 years.  She married and had 5 children.  (There is a little query about her last child as she was born four years after Rachel’s husband died but has the same surname as Rachel and her other children.  But that’s another story)!

John and Anne Read had another son born in 1774 at Great Haseley.  They named him Robert, the same name their first child had.  Sadly, this second Robert died when he was only one month old.

Their last child was another daughter, Ann born in 1775 at Great Haseley.  Ann only lived for 3 years.

All these children are buried in the churchyard of St. Peter’s at Great Haseley, Oxfordshire.  I don’t know if there are tombstones or not for them, because when we went there several years ago, we found virtually all the tombstones were completely weatherworn and none had any inscriptions left, so although we knew these children were there and knew many of my ancestors lie there, we had no idea which graves were theirs.

Original photograph taken by me in Great Haseley, Oxfordshire - copyright 2011

 

Somewhere in that churchyard those four children are laid to rest.  I can only imagine how sad John and Anne Read must have felt losing four of their children like that.  Two of them more or less at the same time, both buried in June 1778.   Just so very sad.

February 22, 2011

Tombstone Tuesday: He of the Smallpox

Filed under: DAILY BLOGGING THEMES, Tombstone Tuesday — Tags: , , , — rootsresearcher @ 10:55 pm

This is another one of the wall tombstones that I found inside St. Mary’s Church, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire.

As far as I know this is not connected to my ancestors but I thought it interesting enough to take a photo of it!

Original photograph taken by me at Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire - copyright 2011

 

The Inscription reads as follows: 
Near this  …(?) lye the Body of
Sarah Wife of John West of
Aylesbury  Ironmonger  Eldest
Daughter of Martinas Dynall
Stationer  Dyed October 5th
1729  aged 43.
And Thomas Veere West only
Son of the Said John & Sarah
He of the Small pox
June 28th 1742
aged 29
I thought the writing on the inscription was a bit more flamboyant than usually seen. 
We don’t often see on tombstones the reason for someone’s death so this one is a little more unique in that respect.  I hope the young gentleman had a happy life although a short one!

February 21, 2011

Mystery Monday: So, what fell from the sky in 1658?

Filed under: DAILY BLOGGING THEMES, Mystery Monday — Tags: , , , , — rootsresearcher @ 11:27 pm

In doing my family history research I have searched through hundreds of parish registers.

I always note certain things that I think are interesting, even if they don’t have anything to do with my own ancestors.

Much of my research is in Buckinghamshire, UK and so I noticed this in the Parish Register for St. Mary’s, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire.

“Upon the 11th of December in this yeare 1658: beinge Saterday a lecture beinge constantly keept: there hapned to fall in the time of sermon a greate stone which wayed about three or four score pounds: and there was then present in their seats neere an hundred scoolers: which stone did breake to of thier heads and part of the gallery where they sate:  soe through providence of god there was none other hurt done:  I pray god wee may all eye his mercies in this and others of his deliverances.  Thomas Daney and Robert Bryan were the: 2 scoolers which were hurte”.

I find this fascinating.  As the two that were hurt (were they killed, we don’t seem to know) were sitting in the gallery, this is higher up in the church.  So the “greate stone” must have come through the roof of the church.  What was it?  Perhaps a meteor?  In those days would they know of meteors?  If they did not, imagine all the things they must have suggested it might be when they discussed it.  How did they shift it and what did they do with it?  A real mystery!!

Amanuensis Monday: Will of Francis Farmbrough dated 1801

Amanuensis Monday is a blog theme started by John Newmark on his blog Transylvanian Dutch, in which he is transcribing letters, newspaper articles, audio tapes, and a war diary etc., concerning his family.

John explains Amanuensis as “a person employed to write what another dictates or to copy what has been written by another”.

Francis Farmbrough (1736 – 1810) was married to Rachael Read (1741 – 1818), the daughter of my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read.  As far as I have discovered, they had two children, Elizabeth and William, who are mentioned in Francis’ Will.

Original photograph taken by me from the Rose Family Tree Book in 2000 - copyright 2011

 This is a very poor quality photo, my apologies for that, but it is the only photo I have of this Coat of Arms.  It was drawn in the huge Rose Family Tree Book that I have mentioned elsewhere in the blog and how I wish I had a better photo!! 

Copy Will in my private collection (obtained from the Buckinghamshire Record Office) - copyright 2011

 

Two of the witness signatures are signed by family.  Jas. James is James James who was married to my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read’s granddaughter Catherine (and James James was the subject of my last Tombstone Tuesday post).   Joseph Rose is the husband of Cozens Read’s daughter Sarah.

Transcript of Will of Francis Farmbrough

I Francis Farmbrough late of Hartwell in the County of Buckingham but now of Aylesbury in the same County Yeoman Do make publish and declare this my last Will and Testament in manner and form following (that is to say) First I give and bequeath unto my dear wife Rachael Farmbrough for her life the use of so much of my Household furniture Linen and Household effects of every sort as she may think necessary to furnish her a House which I direct to be delivered to her as soon as convenient may be after my decease Also I give and bequeath unto my said dear wife One Annuity or clear yearly sum of Fifty pounds of lawful money of Great Britain to be paid and payable to her or her Assigns out of my Real and Personal Estates hereinafter given to my Son William by four equal quarterly payments on the twenty fifth day of March the twenty fourth day of June the twenty ninth day of September and the twenty fifth day of December in every year during the term of her natural life without any deduction or abatement whatsoever out of the same or any part thereof for Duties or otherwise the first quarterly payment thereof to begin and be made on such one of the said days as shall first happen after my decease Next I give and bequeath unto my dear daughter Elizabeth the wife of James Cooper the sum of Seven hundred pounds of lawful money of Great Britain and direct the same to be paid to her by my said Son William out of the said Real and Personal Estate hereinafter given to him within twelve Calendar months next after the decease of my said wife And as to All my Messuages Cottages Lands Tenements Hereditaments and Real Estate whatsoever and wheresoever And all the rest and residue of my Ready monies and Securities for Money Goods Chattels Rights Credits and Personal Estate and Effects whatsoever and wheresoever and of what nature or kind soever I give devise and bequeath the same and every part thereof respectively unto my dear Son William Farmbrough To hold the same Real Estates unto and to the use of my said Son William Farmbrough his Heirs and Assigns for ever And to hold the said Personal Estate unto him and his Executors Administrators and Assigns absolutely to and for his and their own use and benefit Subject nevertheless and I do hereby expressly charge all the said Real and Personal Estates with the payment as well of all my debts Funeral expences and the Charges of the Probate of this my Will and also of the said Annuity or Yearly sum of Fifty pounds to my said wife or her Assigns during her life in the proportions and on the days aforesaid and of the said Legacy or sum of Seven hundred pounds to my said daughter at the time aforesaid And I do hereby nominate constitute and appoint my said dear Son William Farmbrough sole Executor of this my last Will and Testament In Testimony whereof I the said Francis Farmbrough have hereunto set my Hand and Seal this Tenth day of July in the year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and one

Signed Sealed Published and declared by the above named Francis Farmbrough the Testator as and for his last Will and Testament in the presence of us who in his presence at his request and in the presence of each other have subscribed our names as Witnesses thereto

 Jas. James

Joseph Rose

John Brooks

                                                                                                   F. Farmbrough

6th Oct. 1810  The Executor sworn as usual and that the personal Estate of the deceased is under 5000£  Before me

                                                                                                  W. Stockins Senr.

Francis’ son William was not married at the time of the Will being made, but he went on to marry shortly after that and have ten children.

February 20, 2011

Black Sheep Sunday: Edward Reed

This is my first Black Sheep Sunday post but I’m pretty sure it won’t be the last!!

I found a record this week at Find My Past (as I had been given a full subscription there as a Christmas present) and was surprised to find one of my ancestors in their Army Deserters (1828 – 1840) section!

There is only seemingly a transcript from an Index (much to my disappointment) but it seems that my Edward Reed of Great Haseley in Oxfordshire was a deserter.

The information is very brief showing a date of 13 Jan 1829 and he was aged 48 at this time and was in the 3rd Bat. Gren. Gds., but was a Labourer from Great Haseley, Oxfordshire.

I have no idea if the date of this transcript is the date he was tried as a deserter or whether this was when he was discharged or what it applies to.  There are no details as to why he deserted, how long he had been in his Battalion, how he was caught or anything that gives a clue to this episode in his life.

He is the son of Thomas Read (1752 – 1838) and his wife Elizabeth (nee Shepherd) (1746 – 1818) and is the grandnephew of my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read.

I had not been able to find out more about him until now with this information that  he became a soldier and ended up as a deserter.

Where do I start looking for further information about this?  Court Records?  Records for his Battalion?  Or the data provider of this information to Find My Past, the Manchester & Lancs Family History Society?  Or somewhere else?

I can see that I’ve got a bit of digging and delving to do with this and will update with any new information I find concerning Edward.

February 16, 2011

Wordless Wednesday: Edward John Dartnell

Filed under: DAILY BLOGGING THEMES, Wordless Wednesday — Tags: — rootsresearcher @ 11:52 pm

Edward John Dartnell is my great uncle.  There is not a lot to tell about him as he died aged 32 years old.  He was born in 1885 in Lambeth, Surrey and died in 1917 in Southwark, Surrey.

Original photograph in my private collection - copyright 2011

 

I somehow wish that I had asked my Grandmother about Edward while she was still with us.  No-one else in the family is alive who would have known him or anything about him.  I find this very sad.

Wedding Wednesday: After the wedding of the daughter of Mr. Humphreys

Filed under: DAILY BLOGGING THEMES, Wedding Wednesday — Tags: , , , — rootsresearcher @ 11:50 pm

I acquired this photo a few years ago – given to me by someone I corresponded with, as it concerned my ancestors.

As far as I know this is to do with the wedding of Mary Elizabeth Humphreys (1869 – 1937).  She was the 3x great granddaughter of my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read.  Mary married in 1901 to Edward James Readman.

This copy photograph in my private collection - copyright 2011

 

Mary and her parents and siblings lived at Brogborough Park Farm, Ridgmont, Bedfordshire and this photo was taken, I believe, at Brogborough.

Although I don’t have much information about the wedding I thought this photo was a little different from most wedding photographs.

Wednesday’s Child: Nicholas John Moyle

Filed under: DAILY BLOGGING THEMES, Wednesday's Child — Tags: , , — rootsresearcher @ 11:35 pm

Nicholas John Moyle is my partner Paul Moyle’s younger brother.  But Paul did not know he had a younger brother!  I discovered Nicholas when Paul was over 60 years old.

Paul has a vague memory from his childhood that there was a baby in the house, very briefly.  Then the baby went away and nothing more was ever said about it, so over the years Paul thought nothing more of it.

Birth Certificate for Nicholas John Moyle

Copy Birth Certificate in my private collection - copyright 2011

 

Sadly, Nicholas John Moyle only lived for four days.  He died of “Prematurity”.

Copy Death Certificate in my private collection - copyright 2011

 

I cannot show a tombstone for Nicholas or even give information as to where he is buried as we have no idea where this would be!  Even if his parents could not afford a tombstone, he would be buried somewhere, but no matter how much searching I have done, I just can’t find the burial.

I shall continue searching for Nicholas’ burial so that someone from his family will eventually be able to pay their respects and leave some flowers for him.

February 15, 2011

Tombstone Tuesday: James James

As with last week’s Tombstone Tueday, the photograph this week shows another Tombstone on the wall at St. Mary’s, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire. 

James James is the husband of Catherine Read (whose tombstone was featured last week).  (Catherine James (nee Read) is the granddaughter of my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read).

James James was a lawyer and was very well known in and around Aylesbury.  I have heard that he seems to have been a little naughty with client’s money, but don’t know the truth of that rumour and I am still trying to discover more about it!!

Original photograph taken by me a few years ago - copyright 2011

 

Transcript of Monumental Inscription for James James

Beneath are deposited the Remains of

JAMES JAMES, Gentleman

who died the 7th of December 1808

Aged 39 Years

And of JOHN, one of the Sons

of the said JAMES JAMES

by CATHERINE his first wife;

who died the 8th of August 1800

Aged 3 Years and 7 Months

Also of ELIZABETH his widow who departed this Life

the 12th of May 1830 Aged 63 Years

And of their Son JOHN who departed this Life the 11th of May 1813

Aged 5 Years and 10 Months

 

I was very pleased to find this tombstone as it gave the information that James James had married again after Catherine died.  I know from Catherine’s Uncle Michael’s Will dated 1820 that she had 3 sons with James James.  I have only found two, John and James.  I don’t know anything about James James’ second wife Elizabeth apart from what is mentioned on this tombstone.  I don’t know if the son John he had with Elizabeth was their only child or if there are more children.

It seems I have a fair bit of investigating to do concerning this family group, as well as looking into the rumours about what James James really did!!

February 14, 2011

Amanuensis Monday: “I Forbids The Banns”

Filed under: Amanuensis Monday, DAILY BLOGGING THEMES — Tags: , , , — rootsresearcher @ 11:17 pm

Amanuensis Monday is a blog theme started by John Newmark on his blog Transylvanian Dutch, in which he is transcribing letters, newspaper articles, audio tapes, and a war diary etc., concerning his family.

John explains Amanuensis as “a person employed to write what another dictates or to copy what has been written by another”.

For this Amanuensis Monday I am transcribing a newspaper article.  This article was sent to me by my partner Paul’s “new” cousin Charlene, who found us through this blog last year.  The article concerns Paul’s great grandfather William Moyle.

The article itself is from The West Briton, a newspaper for Cornwall, UK.  They have a regular column called Yesteryear and this item was in their 150 years ago section.  The item refers to a newspaper item originally dated 21st September 1860.

Original newspaper article in The West Briton 2010, my copy of it used here - copyright 2011

 

Transcript of newspaper article:

From the West Briton, September 21, 1860

FORBIDDING BANNS – On Sunday morning, marriage banns were called in Helston church, for the second time, between William Moyle, of Wendron, and Caroline Laity, of Helston. After the Rev. R. Tudor had read the usual form, the congregation were surprised by a person in a loud voice saying, “I forbids the banns”. A half-suppressed titter ran through the church, and all eyes were directed to the quarter whence the challenge came, where stood a stranger who, it appeared, was the father of Moyle. After a moment’s pause, Mr. Tudor requested him to into the vestry at the close of the service, which he did. It is said the principal reason urged was the youth of the expectant bridegroom, who has only seen eighteen summers, and delves with pick and shovel underground for little wages, while the bride elect is of maturer years. Whether the stern parent has shown sufficient cause to prohibit the blessing of the priest, or whether he will yet relent and allow incipient bliss to be consummated, are matters that engage the attention of the gossips of the town.

 

 

This was such a surprise for us to see.  This marriage did not take place at all because only five months later William Moyle married Eliza Leaity the sister of Caroline Laity.

William and Eliza married on 23rd February 1861 at the Register Office in Helston, Cornwall.  He was aged 20 and working as a Tin Miner and Eliza was aged 22 at this time.

I have always wondered why they married in the Register Office when the rest of the family members married in church.   Now I know why, thanks to cousin Charlene sending this newspaper article.

Quite obviously they did not need Banns to be read because of marrying in the Register Office so maybe William’s father James Moyle did not know about the marriage at that time.  This was after all only five months later and not to Caroline, but her sister, who was also older than William, but Eliza was only a year younger than her sister Caroline.

It obviously did not take William Moyle long to get over Caroline.  Maybe his father James somehow knew that a marriage to Caroline would not be right!!

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