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March 16, 2011

Wednesday’s Child: Four Daughters Called Elisabeth Read

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In my search for more of my Read ancestors, I note all those I come across, mainly in Buckinghamshire and Oxfordshire and sometimes further afield.

On re-checking some of my notes today, I came across all the Reads that were baptised, married or buried in Chicheley, Buckinghamshire, UK.

At this stage I don’t know if these are actually my ancestors, but it is very likely they are.  I just thought this was rather sad.

We have John Read and his wife Anne.  They have five children.  Their daughter Elisabeth was baptised in 1582 and within her first year, sadly died.  There is a little gap and then they have another daughter, again calling her Elisabeth baptised in 1589.  She also did not make it to her first year of age!  John and Anne’s next child was another daughter, so they named her Elisabeth, just like the earlier two daughters.  This daughter was baptised in 1591.  Her mother was buried in 1591 and she herself was buried in 1591.  I think maybe John’s wife died as a result of giving birth to the last Elisabeth.

John must marry again as he has a son Thomas born in 1593. But he also has a wife, Cresset, buried in 1597.  Still, he must marry for a third time as he has another daughter, named Elisabeth baptised in 1599.  Sadly she is also buried in 1599.  He has one more child, a son called John born in 1600. 

 His last wife, Elisabeth manages to live another thirty years after the last child is born, and is herself buried in 1630.  Sadly John, the father, died in 1613 so his last child was only about 13 when he lost his father.

It just seems so sad to have had four daughters and lose them all within the first year of their lives, especially when they were all given the same name.  John and Anne quite obviously wanted to name their daughters after someone in particular. 

John and his first wife Anne also had another daughter before the first of the Elisabeths called Martha.  She is buried in 1578 but I have not found a baptism for her, so think maybe they were living elsewhere when she was born.


March 9, 2011

Wednesday’s Child: Sister and Brother – Ann and Thomas Lovegrove

My ancestor Betty Read, the niece of my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read married Thomas Lovegrove in Great Haseley, Oxfordshire, UK  on 7th October 1769.  (Betty is my female ancestor for today’s March 9 post for Women’s History Month – Fearless Females).

She and Thomas had six children but sadly lost two of them.  Their daughter Ann was born in 1775 but died less than a year later in 1776.  In 1778 two years after Ann died, Betty and Thomas had a son Thomas (named after his father).  Sadly he died in 1790 aged 12 years old. 

Ann and Thomas junior are both buried at Great Haseley and when we visited the churchyard there it was amazing to find that nearly all the tombstones were completely unreadable through the ravages of time.  So we did not find exactly where Ann and Thomas (or any of my numerous ancestors) were buried, but we know they are there somewhere.  They won’t be forgotten.

Sadly for Betty, her husband Thomas died just two years after his son.

March 2, 2011

Wednesday’s Child: Edward, Robert and Edward Read

For today’s Wednesday’s Child I am giving details of three of seven children of William Read (c1709 – 1758) and his wife Mary (nee Turner) (d. 1790).  William is the brother of my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read.

William and Mary lived in a few different places while having their children, going by where they had them baptised (and/or buried).  Their first child, Edward was born in June 1737 at Stoke Talmage, Oxfordshire, UK and died one month later and buried in Wheatfield, Oxfordshire.

I don’t have a photo of his grave as I could not find one, but here are some photos of the church at Stoke Talmage and the church at Wheatfield.

Stoke Talmage

Original photograph taken by me in Stoke Talmage, Oxfordshire in 2000 – copyright 2011



Original photograph taken by me in Wheatfield, Oxfordshire – copyright 2011


Another child of William and Mary Read’s to die very young is Robert, born in 1738 and died in 1739 at Wheatfield, Oxfordshire aged just six months.

William and Mary then had another son they called Edward and he survived a little longer than his brothers.  He was born in September 1743 at Great Haseley, Oxfordshire and died one year and one month later in 1744 at Wheatfield.

It must have been a blessing for William and Mary to see their remaining four children survive and they lived on into their adulthood.


February 23, 2011

Wednesday’s Child: The Read Children

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I was having a sift through some of my reseach notes today and double checking various things and in doing so I was looking at the family of John Read (1745 – 1804) and his wife Anne (nee Grace) (d. 1799).  John is the nephew of my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read.

John and Anne Read had five children but only one survived to adulthood.  She went on to marry and have children of her own.

John and Anne’s first child was Robert born at  Great Haseley, Oxfordshire in February 1769.  He died four months later.

Their next child was Thomas, born at Great Haseley in July 1770.  They must have been very pleased to find Thomas growing up out of his babyhood and becoming a toddler and on into his childhood.  But, sadly poor Thomas died aged  eight years.  His parents must have been desolate to lose another child.

Their third child was a daughter, Rachel, born in 1772 at Great Haseley.  John and Anne must have been on tenterhooks throughout Rachel’s childhood, wondering if they were going to lose her too.  But, Rachel grew up and lived to a good age, 72 years.  She married and had 5 children.  (There is a little query about her last child as she was born four years after Rachel’s husband died but has the same surname as Rachel and her other children.  But that’s another story)!

John and Anne Read had another son born in 1774 at Great Haseley.  They named him Robert, the same name their first child had.  Sadly, this second Robert died when he was only one month old.

Their last child was another daughter, Ann born in 1775 at Great Haseley.  Ann only lived for 3 years.

All these children are buried in the churchyard of St. Peter’s at Great Haseley, Oxfordshire.  I don’t know if there are tombstones or not for them, because when we went there several years ago, we found virtually all the tombstones were completely weatherworn and none had any inscriptions left, so although we knew these children were there and knew many of my ancestors lie there, we had no idea which graves were theirs.

Original photograph taken by me in Great Haseley, Oxfordshire - copyright 2011


Somewhere in that churchyard those four children are laid to rest.  I can only imagine how sad John and Anne Read must have felt losing four of their children like that.  Two of them more or less at the same time, both buried in June 1778.   Just so very sad.

February 16, 2011

Wednesday’s Child: Nicholas John Moyle

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Nicholas John Moyle is my partner Paul Moyle’s younger brother.  But Paul did not know he had a younger brother!  I discovered Nicholas when Paul was over 60 years old.

Paul has a vague memory from his childhood that there was a baby in the house, very briefly.  Then the baby went away and nothing more was ever said about it, so over the years Paul thought nothing more of it.

Birth Certificate for Nicholas John Moyle

Copy Birth Certificate in my private collection - copyright 2011


Sadly, Nicholas John Moyle only lived for four days.  He died of “Prematurity”.

Copy Death Certificate in my private collection - copyright 2011


I cannot show a tombstone for Nicholas or even give information as to where he is buried as we have no idea where this would be!  Even if his parents could not afford a tombstone, he would be buried somewhere, but no matter how much searching I have done, I just can’t find the burial.

I shall continue searching for Nicholas’ burial so that someone from his family will eventually be able to pay their respects and leave some flowers for him.

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