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March 9, 2011

Wednesday’s Child: Sister and Brother – Ann and Thomas Lovegrove

My ancestor Betty Read, the niece of my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read married Thomas Lovegrove in Great Haseley, Oxfordshire, UK  on 7th October 1769.  (Betty is my female ancestor for today’s March 9 post for Women’s History Month – Fearless Females).

She and Thomas had six children but sadly lost two of them.  Their daughter Ann was born in 1775 but died less than a year later in 1776.  In 1778 two years after Ann died, Betty and Thomas had a son Thomas (named after his father).  Sadly he died in 1790 aged 12 years old. 

Ann and Thomas junior are both buried at Great Haseley and when we visited the churchyard there it was amazing to find that nearly all the tombstones were completely unreadable through the ravages of time.  So we did not find exactly where Ann and Thomas (or any of my numerous ancestors) were buried, but we know they are there somewhere.  They won’t be forgotten.

Sadly for Betty, her husband Thomas died just two years after his son.


March 9 – Women’s History Month – Fearless Females

March 9 – Take a family document (baptismal certificate, passenger list, naturalization petition, etc.) and write a brief narrative using the information.

I decided to show the Marriage Licence for my ancestor Betty Read who married Thomas Lovegrove.  Betty is the niece of my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read.

Here is a copy of the Marriage Licence:

Copy of original document in my private collection (obtained from the Oxfordshire Record Office) - copyright 2011

This is a transcript of the above document:

                                                                                  October 6th 1769

 Appeared personally Thomas Lovegrove and made oath that he is of the parish of Great Haseley in the County of Oxford of the Age of Thirty four years and upwards and a Batchelor And intends to intermarry with Betty Read of the same parish of the Age of Twenty Three years and upwards and a Spinster

 To this Deponent not knowing or believing any Lawful Lett or Impediment by reason of any Precontract entered into before the Twenty Fifth Day of  March 1754 consanguinity Affinity or any other lawful Means whatsoever to hinder the said intended Marriage and Prayed a Licence to Solemnize the same in the parish Church of Great Haseley Aforesaid and and further made oath that the usual place  of Abode of him this Deponent hath been in the said parish of Great Haseley for the space of Four Weeks last past

Same day

the said Thomas Lovegrove

was sworn to the truth hereof                                                 Thos. Lovegrove

Before me

             T. Cox T …(?)

Betty Read married Thomas Lovegrove on 7th October 1769, the day after Thomas signed this document.  I know Betty and her family were from around Great Haseley, Oxfordshire (which is where they married) and thought that Thomas’ family were also from there.  But this document shows he only lived in Great Haseley for the previous four weeks, obviously to get the Licence, so I wonder where he was living before.

This Licence also shows that Betty was only 23 when she married although Thomas was a bit older at 34 years old.  A fair sized gap in age between them!  Betty and Thomas went on to have 6 children and I am including two of their children in this week’s Wednesday’s Child post.

I have another document concerning Betty (Read) Lovegrove, a Discharge of Legacy, dated 1804 when she was now known as Betty Burgess, having married again after Thomas Lovegrove died.  I have shown this Discharge of Legacy previously on the blog (under the Pages section, Old Documents, Discharge of Legacy), but will show it again here as Betty is my female ancestor for this day and I have the two documents concerning her!

The Discharge of Legacy:

Copy of original document in my private collection - copyright 2011


And the transcript for this document:

We William Burgess of Great Haseley in the County of Oxford Labourer and Betty his Wife – one of the Nieces and Legatees named in the Last Will and Testament of Rachel Read late of Tiddington in the Parish of Albury in the same County Spinster deceased DO hereby acknowledge that we have this day had and received of and from Michael Read of Lower Winchendon in the County of Bucks – yeoman a Nephew and the Devisee named in the said Will of the said Rachel Read the full sum of Thirty Pounds in Satisfaction and Discharge of the Legacy of that amount which by the same Will is given to she the said Betty and directed to be paid within six calendar months next after the Testatrix’s Decease As Witness our Hands this 11th Day of May in the Year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and four.

Betty Burgess

Witness, Edward Read; the mark X of William Burgess


Betty married William Burgess on 14th May 1796 at St. Martin’s, Oxford, Oxfordshire, UK  (four years after Thomas Lovegrove died).  Betty and William did not have any children together.

Betty lived a long life for those days, 74 years and because it was the Discharge of Legacy for her that pointed me in the direction of many of my other ancestors, she has become rather special to me.  🙂

March 2, 2011

Wednesday’s Child: Edward, Robert and Edward Read

For today’s Wednesday’s Child I am giving details of three of seven children of William Read (c1709 – 1758) and his wife Mary (nee Turner) (d. 1790).  William is the brother of my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read.

William and Mary lived in a few different places while having their children, going by where they had them baptised (and/or buried).  Their first child, Edward was born in June 1737 at Stoke Talmage, Oxfordshire, UK and died one month later and buried in Wheatfield, Oxfordshire.

I don’t have a photo of his grave as I could not find one, but here are some photos of the church at Stoke Talmage and the church at Wheatfield.

Stoke Talmage

Original photograph taken by me in Stoke Talmage, Oxfordshire in 2000 – copyright 2011



Original photograph taken by me in Wheatfield, Oxfordshire – copyright 2011


Another child of William and Mary Read’s to die very young is Robert, born in 1738 and died in 1739 at Wheatfield, Oxfordshire aged just six months.

William and Mary then had another son they called Edward and he survived a little longer than his brothers.  He was born in September 1743 at Great Haseley, Oxfordshire and died one year and one month later in 1744 at Wheatfield.

It must have been a blessing for William and Mary to see their remaining four children survive and they lived on into their adulthood.


February 23, 2011

Wednesday’s Child: The Read Children

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I was having a sift through some of my reseach notes today and double checking various things and in doing so I was looking at the family of John Read (1745 – 1804) and his wife Anne (nee Grace) (d. 1799).  John is the nephew of my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read.

John and Anne Read had five children but only one survived to adulthood.  She went on to marry and have children of her own.

John and Anne’s first child was Robert born at  Great Haseley, Oxfordshire in February 1769.  He died four months later.

Their next child was Thomas, born at Great Haseley in July 1770.  They must have been very pleased to find Thomas growing up out of his babyhood and becoming a toddler and on into his childhood.  But, sadly poor Thomas died aged  eight years.  His parents must have been desolate to lose another child.

Their third child was a daughter, Rachel, born in 1772 at Great Haseley.  John and Anne must have been on tenterhooks throughout Rachel’s childhood, wondering if they were going to lose her too.  But, Rachel grew up and lived to a good age, 72 years.  She married and had 5 children.  (There is a little query about her last child as she was born four years after Rachel’s husband died but has the same surname as Rachel and her other children.  But that’s another story)!

John and Anne Read had another son born in 1774 at Great Haseley.  They named him Robert, the same name their first child had.  Sadly, this second Robert died when he was only one month old.

Their last child was another daughter, Ann born in 1775 at Great Haseley.  Ann only lived for 3 years.

All these children are buried in the churchyard of St. Peter’s at Great Haseley, Oxfordshire.  I don’t know if there are tombstones or not for them, because when we went there several years ago, we found virtually all the tombstones were completely weatherworn and none had any inscriptions left, so although we knew these children were there and knew many of my ancestors lie there, we had no idea which graves were theirs.

Original photograph taken by me in Great Haseley, Oxfordshire - copyright 2011


Somewhere in that churchyard those four children are laid to rest.  I can only imagine how sad John and Anne Read must have felt losing four of their children like that.  Two of them more or less at the same time, both buried in June 1778.   Just so very sad.

February 20, 2011

Black Sheep Sunday: Edward Reed

This is my first Black Sheep Sunday post but I’m pretty sure it won’t be the last!!

I found a record this week at Find My Past (as I had been given a full subscription there as a Christmas present) and was surprised to find one of my ancestors in their Army Deserters (1828 – 1840) section!

There is only seemingly a transcript from an Index (much to my disappointment) but it seems that my Edward Reed of Great Haseley in Oxfordshire was a deserter.

The information is very brief showing a date of 13 Jan 1829 and he was aged 48 at this time and was in the 3rd Bat. Gren. Gds., but was a Labourer from Great Haseley, Oxfordshire.

I have no idea if the date of this transcript is the date he was tried as a deserter or whether this was when he was discharged or what it applies to.  There are no details as to why he deserted, how long he had been in his Battalion, how he was caught or anything that gives a clue to this episode in his life.

He is the son of Thomas Read (1752 – 1838) and his wife Elizabeth (nee Shepherd) (1746 – 1818) and is the grandnephew of my 6 x great grandfather Cozens Read.

I had not been able to find out more about him until now with this information that  he became a soldier and ended up as a deserter.

Where do I start looking for further information about this?  Court Records?  Records for his Battalion?  Or the data provider of this information to Find My Past, the Manchester & Lancs Family History Society?  Or somewhere else?

I can see that I’ve got a bit of digging and delving to do with this and will update with any new information I find concerning Edward.

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